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From: LP12
I do indeed. It's kind of the plan. I didn't know Sweden had smashed so many up, I thought it was just the French that did that ... but then I thought, IKEA and it all seemed reasonable.. So easy to destroy & much harder to replace: reputation, friends, Kakelugn fires. In a 80 cm wide 2.20meter ciruclar Kakelugn, I suppose the width of the individual flues would be 15cm internal diameter or wide (round or either square brick flu. on the first main riser. Split off into two on the downlegs, either side, maybe reduced to 100 internal, two back up similar dimensions, and into the exit flu at 15 (150mm. But that may be more suited to a larger rectangular. In the round above the exit flu would likly be smaller, 125mm or less ... but still they would end up in an unlined chimney anyway. So just speculation. (internal risers 10cm) I'd like to see more detailed plans but kind of know how to build one, just need to move the loo, reinforce the floor, and have the money to buy the materials. Likely this year for next winter would be good. Fun fact, my girlfriend in 2012, her brother bought a house in Saint Etienne, south west of lyon, at 500 meter altitude??, garage complex underneath, bunglalow (pavillion) on first floor. In the lounge was a beautiful tall floor-to-ceiling tiled fire. He ripped it out... I told him not to, but he knew best. there's other ways of getting heat out. Basis is hot combustion chambre where as much wood gas etc as possible is already burnt and you have as high a temp to begin the journey through the system as possiblt. I could build a large brick behind my Godin, either internally as style or as a more simple 'bell', heat rises and flows down (then out) or there's a shelf design (similar to a cesspit) where the dividers are vertical walls with free space at the bottom for air to pass to the next vertical chambre. I saw a good design, big rectangle, 6 foot high, 8 long, 3 wide, and the smoke follows a brick channel through it before exiting into a lined 6 inch flu. Likely flu length in the mass, 70+ foot (25 meters) Pretty much all flu is firebrick,.. which I looked at last week, 2,50 each, bricomarche. Could buy 2nd hand to save £££s, but hassle. When buying in bulk of maybe 400 bricks 2,50 is fking expensive!! [a grand, ed] This is the thing, in the olde days clay and fired brick were all cheap! Everything involved was cheap (normal), forge blacksmith iron work etc. tiles being most expensive. But back in the 60s and 70 so were electric and gas prices. When I was a kid gas was going to be actually free. YEs, given away, as 'too cheap to meter'. That was possibly an urban myth though,.. or a pr exercise to sell boilers .. and also could have been electric via nuclear .. in USA... point is, energy prices back in the day were cheap. I see houses here, by law must state cost to 'energise' per year, low to high figue, and see 3000-5000 euro on bigger places rated as 'G' (A being best) spent every year on heating and power .... 5k!! OF I have to get a diagnostic report when I sell this place it will be G, and the oil bill and electric bill would give that kind of figure. In reality, it's 500 for electric, 2 13kg bottles of butane (80) and whatever goes up the chimney, 3 sq meters of wood 150. But that's not heating the whole house, or heating it to 21 degrees. You'd need to burn 5 times more wood to be warm from un up to next sunup, 10 steyers of wood, and that's hard work, plus stockage, so people now gone to pellets, and polystrene insulation externally. What that will look like in 50 years ....?? don woryy abowd'it seems to be official gov response. A mass fire would reduce the consumption, make like easier, and go further in heating the whole house/maintaing say 18 overall, even in early feb when 2 outside. (but house insulation can always be well done and needs to be done to get this figure, cold walls wood lined, etc.

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LP12, you need a Kakelugn:...[more]	Opisthocomus	22:57:34
>> I do indeed. It's kind of the plan. I didn't know Sweden had smashed so many up, I ... [more]	LP12	10:16:36

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