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From: LP12
I thought I'd better look into this.

It seems like someone was around, who was executed - his crime: rubbing people up the wrong way.


"do the romans or the jews refer to jesus christ in their records"

Yes, both Roman and Jewish non-Christian sources from the late first and early second centuries refer to Jesus and the early Christian movement.

Roman References
Tacitus: In his Annals (c. AD 116), the Roman historian confirms that Christus (Jesus) was executed by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Emperor Tiberius. This is widely considered an authentic, independent confirmation of the crucifixion.

Suetonius: Writing c. AD 120, he mentions disturbances in Rome instigated by Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christus), leading Emperor Claudius to expel Jews from the city.

Pliny the Younger: In a letter to Emperor Trajan (c. AD 112), he describes Christians worshipping Christ as a deity, though he does not provide biographical details about Jesus himself.

Jewish References
Flavius Josephus: This first-century Romano-Jewish historian mentions Jesus twice in his Antiquities of the Jews (c. AD 93–94). The second reference, identifying James as the "brother of Jesus who was called Christ," is universally accepted by scholars as authentic. The first, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, is debated while scholars agree the core reference to Jesus is authentic, later Christian interpolations likely altered the text to sound more pro-Christian.

The Talmud: Later Jewish texts contain allusions to Jesus, though these are less useful for establishing contemporaneous historical facts about his life.

Notable Earlier Source
Mara bar Serapion: A Stoic philosopher from Syria, his letter (dated c. AD 73 or later) refers to Jesus as the "wise King" of the Jews who was executed, noting that his wisdom survived his death.
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 Free Thinking Doggie  14:41:18 
>> As posted 17.58 yesterday
 Hamsterwheel  15:12:42 
>> How are we supposed to read that.?
 Denc 🗡  14:56:57 
>> I know it says translate but for me it never works.
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 LP12  15:06:44 
>> Int religion great
 Denc 🗡  15:18:00 
>> + all men born in sin!!
 LP12  15:26:07 
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 Denc 🗡  15:31:14 
>> Where did Jesus teach that?
 Hamsterwheel  15:32:57 
>> Nowhere because Jesus was an entirely mythical creation.
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>> Good to know, children are human.
 LP12  18:50:08 
>> It was God's will?
 JonH🍕  14:49:43 

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